ryan's budget, but don't they owe him a list? >> they do and they haven't really provided one. there's a great article in politico yesterday. they talk ed about how democrat, the president's come forward with 1.6 trillion in revenue increases, it's been very detailed. and then you know, he asks okay, republicans what do you want on entitlement cut and the republicans have said present us a list of options and then we'll pick from those that are acceptable to you and you know, the administration i think rightly so said no, that's not how this game works. if you want something, you need fo bring it to us, but we're not going to be the ones presenting to you both the revenue and entitlement fix. we don't want to do the second thing as much, so if you want entitlement cuts, you need to propose them to us and we'll talk about that. >> is it possible -- >> you know, i have a suspicion, now, i'm a republican, so i'll admit that, but i'm thinking more and more, the president, he doesn't really sound like he wants to get this deal done.